I've had the silver and black leathers for years honestly - not a Power Ranger!
Having already
said that it’s quite nimble, it’s a bit more flighty and less controllable on bumpy roads than the Street
Triple, bouncing around a fair bit. That's almost certainly because it needs setting up from scratch for my weight and that will happen when everything settles in. The
Triple had lots of attention in that respect and care in setting sag and damping really paid off.
Nonetheless, it’s very good indeed for a sport bike with taut suspension and feels more like
a 600 than a 1000. As mentioned in previous posts, it was noticed that on the most sensitive
traction control setting that it actually activates on tight corners when “pressing
on” in dry conditions. You can’t feel it, but the TC warning light flickers on and off showing that it
is changing power delivery characteristics.
Rider comfort, at least for a person of my height is surprisingly good
and even with stuffed knees; the footpeg height is relatively comfortable.
Forget the claimed top speed of around 250 km/hr on most of the world's public highways, it's the brutal acceleration
which is the really impressive feature. Sport Rider magazine ran it through the standing start 1/4 mile in 10.6 seconds with a terminal speed of 214 km/hr. With grunt like this, traction control is
clearly a real advantage in reducing unfortunate consequences from a ham-fisted
approach to throttle control! It raises the question of how
much power is sufficient for everyday road use.
In this instance, to borrow the phrase used by Rolls Royce about their cars; it’s “adequate”!
To slow the bike down after the brutal acceleration, the Suzy is equipped with radial 4-pot Brembos up front and a single pot Nissin out back, with ABS to make the whole thing civilised. As yet, I haven't had to use the brakes in anger so can't make any objective comments. On the delivery trip home, they were quite wooden, but the dealer warned me that they would take time to bed in. I've done one deliberate hard straight line stop, simply to test the ABS as I've never ridden an ABS bike before. The feeling left me a bit underwhelmed as there was no savage, wedding tackle squashed into the back of the tank-type deceleration. Perhaps that's the point of it - no dramas during heavy braking.
To slow the bike down after the brutal acceleration, the Suzy is equipped with radial 4-pot Brembos up front and a single pot Nissin out back, with ABS to make the whole thing civilised. As yet, I haven't had to use the brakes in anger so can't make any objective comments. On the delivery trip home, they were quite wooden, but the dealer warned me that they would take time to bed in. I've done one deliberate hard straight line stop, simply to test the ABS as I've never ridden an ABS bike before. The feeling left me a bit underwhelmed as there was no savage, wedding tackle squashed into the back of the tank-type deceleration. Perhaps that's the point of it - no dramas during heavy braking.
The OEM
tyres are Dunlop D214 sport soft compound.
Excellent dry grip but like most pure sport tyres, require heat to
deliver maximum adhesion. That is likely to
be problematic for IAM mentoring work in all weathers, particularly wet winters.
However, given that the life of these tyres is likely to be somewhat short, they
will be replaced with the outstanding all-weather Michelin PR4’s fairly soon.
Fuel range
came as a pleasant surprise. Range is
important to someone who lives a fair distance from the main centres and
besides, I hate stopping for gas when on the move! With a sympathetic right hand, it’s quite
possible to get around 300 km or thereabouts.
An excellent feature of the instrument panel is a “range until empty”
readout, giving the rider real-time information. Allied with this are instant and cumulative
fuel consumption readings in several different output measurement formats.
Any downsides?
Well, it is
a sport bike so a pillion rider is unlikely thank you for the minimalist seat
and high rear pegs on anything but a short(ish) run. If you don’t plan to take a pillion or go
very far with one, then they might still walk normally afterwards!
On the
GSX-S website forum, quite a few riders have complained that the engine is
snatchy off a trailing throttle. Coming from a Street Triple which had a similar reputation, I would
have said it's a touch sensitive at low openings but not something which can't be lived with. On a constant throttle at slow
speeds, it is a little lumpy but it’s not particularly annoying. However, if it’s used for regular commuting in heavy
traffic, it might become irritating but in fairness, riding a sport bike in those
conditions is not exactly “fit for purpose”!
Another
thing which may or may not become irritating is a combination of the exhaust and induction
noise. It's noticeable when rolling off from fairly high revs in the lower gears, there appears to be a harmonic which can be quite intrusive (read
loud!) I personally like it up to now but acknowledge that it might not be to everyone’s
taste.
The
marketing hype which went along with the bike’s release played quite heavily on
the “hooligan” element of the bike’s nature so it’s entirely possible that the
induction howl is quite
deliberate. Maybe the lumpiness too but more likely to be the consequences of emission controls.
Accessories, plus odds ‘n sods
I’m not big on bling to turn it into a tart's handbag and extras have been limited to strictly practical use. With its pure sport bias, the GSX-S is not set up to be a sports tourer but a range of aftermarket racks are
available to take luggage. I’ve simply opted
for throw-over Oxford
bags which have sat unused in a cupboard for several years. The bags have been on for one run of several hundred km, didn't move and didn't affect the handling of the bike. They don't look too out of place either. I also have a 10 litre yachting dry bag which can be bungeed to the top of the bags to give additional storage for a few days away.
Oxford expandable bags for touring
For paint
protection, 3M matte finish anti-scratch clear film has been applied to the fuel tank and
rear cowl. Absolutely delighted with the workmanship of the guy who applied it. So good that it's virtually invisible.
A Pyramid self- adhesive front guard extension has been fitted to stop road crap from being fired into the radiator from the front tyre. R&G crash mushrooms have been fitted to protect the bike in the event of a drop (shudder).
A handlebar mount for the GPS has been installed and the standard halogen headlamp bulb has been replaced with an identical wattage but higher output Xenon bulb of the type I used on the Street Triple. This has benefits in terms of visibility in both daytime and night riding. A small flyscreen is to be added, as much for looks as protection and that’s about it. Not even sure whether I'll bother fitting the Escort radar detector/screamer setup which I had on the Triple.
Arrows showing edge of matte 3M clear anti-scratch paint protection
A Pyramid self- adhesive front guard extension has been fitted to stop road crap from being fired into the radiator from the front tyre. R&G crash mushrooms have been fitted to protect the bike in the event of a drop (shudder).
R&G aero-style crash protectors
A handlebar mount for the GPS has been installed and the standard halogen headlamp bulb has been replaced with an identical wattage but higher output Xenon bulb of the type I used on the Street Triple. This has benefits in terms of visibility in both daytime and night riding. A small flyscreen is to be added, as much for looks as protection and that’s about it. Not even sure whether I'll bother fitting the Escort radar detector/screamer setup which I had on the Triple.
OEM 60/55W Halogen (L), Ring Automotive 60/55 Xenon +130 (R)
(Both on dipped beam)
In summary
It’s a
beast of a bike and a lot of fun to get to grips with. As mentioned earlier, very much like a big
Street Triple with added steroids. In some respects, it’s
the sort of bike that encourages immoderate behaviour - a sort of “Who you
lookin’ at” teenager with acne bike rather than a mature adult that says “I don’t have to prove anything”! Having said that, it’s also pretty
sophisticated in terms of electronics and is a good example of just how far
bikes have developed an the last few years.
Value for money? Heck yes!! Fun?
In spades!!
Addendum: Nov 2018. A 3 year, 45,000 km review of the bike can be found HERE
Addendum: Nov 2018. A 3 year, 45,000 km review of the bike can be found HERE
Hooligan Power Ranger... I guess it fits, eh?
ReplyDeleteNice review and it sounds like it fits your needs well. Are there any adjustments on the stock suspension or do you need to go to the aftermarket?
Oh, haha Richard..... one of the great things about growing older is not giving a hoot what others think :-)!
DeleteThank you, I think it will be good until the call of 3 cylinders starts again! The stock suspension has the full range of adjustments which is great. The rear shock clearly won't be built to the same quality as Ohlins, Penske or the like but it should be ok for maybe 20,000 k or so before performance noticeably declines.
Does it still have the new bike smell? Great to see you're getting better acquainted with the new beast - I have to say I really like the look of them and know they'd be a heap of fun.
ReplyDeleteWhat i really think is that you need a Adv bike to keep it company...I know where there's a nice DL1000...
Hi Andrew,
ReplyDeleteSure does, particularly when it's hot. It had its first wash the other day and I was surprised to see the water droplets beading on the matte finish just like it had polish on! Must be a property of the coating. They are fun, but the sort of fun which is likely to attract red and blue flashing lights. That's partially why I went for the non-faired model for a bit more wind resistance.
Used to love dirt riding but sold my IT175 the best part of 15 years ago as I no longer bounced all that well! Saw a brand new DL1000 at Holeshot and didn't recognise it at first with the big styling changes.
Test rode one today and then read your blog. I look forward to your updates as it will be mid next year before I buy. Todays post. http://hayabusarider.blogspot.co.nz
ReplyDeleteHope that you enjoyed the test ride! I haven't been very regular with the blog I'm afraid and no further plans at this stage for further updates (unless it turns out to be an unreliable dog!)
ReplyDeleteQuote: "A mature adult which says “I don’t have to prove anything”... ??? Geoff, you are a best ager bloke riding a beast of a motorcycle. Tell me please, in which world you really think this could be considered a mature adult's behaviour? Yeah, right.
ReplyDeleteLet it roll, and have fun.
Hi Sonja, you really know how to get to the heart of the matter, don't you? Perhaps we adopt the personality of the bikes? Perhaps they do have a soul, like the car Christine in Stephen King's book :-) . I don't think that line of defence would stand up in court though!
ReplyDeleteGreat first picture Geoff. So glad you are enjoying the Suzuki. I am sure the riding will only get better as you get the suspension dialed in.
ReplyDeleteHi Brandy and thank you! No matter how much a person enjoys their previous bike, getting another one is always invigorating because it allows you to tinker to get it just right!
ReplyDeleteDear Geoff,
ReplyDeletejust bought a 2010 Street Triple R and took it home today. Last Days i spent much time on your blog and enjoyed reading about your bikes, tours and points of view. Test rode also a Yamaha FZ1-N last week, but found it not anywhere close to the great ergonomics of the triple and didn't find the same instant torquiness and direct throttle acceptance. Price was nearly the same, but i went with the triumph.
Hope you've lots of miles to come with your new choice of bike and that the modern electronic safety-features help making them miles with happy returns. Greetings from Germany - it's getting really cold here now.
Hello Ben!
DeleteMany thanks for the kind words and congratulations on getting a Street Triple R. I don't think you will ever regret buying one. Mine did everything I want in a bike and as you may have read, buying the Suzuki wasn't a long-planned decision. I'm enjoying it very much but who knows what the future holds? I still consider myself a Triumph man!
Safe and enjoyable riding, especially in your winter!
Change labels. Get some Triumph stickers for Christmas ;)
DeleteRide on and tame the beast.
Hahahaha!
DeleteHi Geoff, I ride a 2008 street triple and am very keen on the GSXS. I find your review incredibly interesting and useful. I test rode the naked version and also found that they are very similar. I think the Suzuki carries its weight even lower than the Triumph. At very low speeds, around 5kmph it is very stable and easy to keep in a straight line. Maybe the wider rear tyre helps.
ReplyDeleteHave you had a chance to play with your suspension settings to your liking? The only reason I would switch is that I'm looking for something with a bit more stable front end that gives me more confidence in sweeping corners. I have Ohlins rear on the street triple and revalved the forks to get a bit more feel. The change to Ohlins was a revelation. The rear is very supple and controlled. I would trade off a bit of the "nimbleness" for a bit more stability at the front. I would be interested in F model for that reason
Would you say the Suzuki is slightly more stable in corners compared to the street triple given its longer wheelbase?
Just like you I see myself as a triumph man and I'm tossing between waiting for the 800 triple or go for the Suzuki now.
Hi - you have excellent taste!
DeleteIn short, I'm waiting for everything to settle down before I measure sag and start playing with the suspension. Based on my experience with the Street Triple suspension and upgrading it, the GSX-S is going to need the suspension softening a little for the type of roads I ride on. Incidentally, you can see my Street Triple review here: http://geoffjames.blogspot.co.nz/2010/08/triumph-street-triple-review-revisited.html. At present, the Suzuki isn't more stable than the Street Triple as it's a bit harsh and I'd got the Triple spot on.
I sold the Triple as the km's were getting up a bit, although it was running perfectly. Love the Suzuki but for the type of riding I do, it doesn't offer a huge advantage over the Triple. That's not to say that I don't love the grunt, traction control etc but for most things, the Triple did the job extraordinarily well.
Good looking bike, the silver/grey is much nicer than the Suzuki blue which is only colour I had seen it in previously.
ReplyDeleteThank you! I didn't mind the blue but as my Blackbird was that colour, I wanted something different and also less obtrusive. Wasn't sure about the matte grey finish at first but now love it. When washing it, the water beads off just like a gloss finish.
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