Regular
readers of this blog will know the history of the tyres I’ve had on the GSX-S
1000 from previous posts. By way of a
brief recap, the OEM Dunlop D214 pure sport tyres were horrid things for road
use in NZ where it’s eminently possible to get 4 seasons in one day. Grip in warm, dry conditions was fine but
when it was cooler and damp, they were bastards (to use a technical term). Hard
to get enough heat in them in those circumstances for decent grip and I didn’t
trust them. Also bearing in mind that I
was breaking the bike in during this period, a rear tyre life of 3700 km to a
completely ruined state was pretty underwhelming. It was also potentially bankrupting
considering that I generally cover about 20,000 km/yr.
The
replacement set of choice were the Michelin PR4's, having used them on my Street
Triple and having found them a brilliant all-round tyre with exceptional wet
weather grip properties. They even survived a track day without complaining too
much. A 55 profile tyre was chosen as
opposed to the OEM 50 profile in the hope of getting a quicker turn-in and it
worked – much easier to change line in twisty conditions. Approximate rear tyre life was an entirely acceptable
12,500 km and both hoops retained a reasonable profile and decent handling
throughout. Photos and a more detailed
account can be found HERE . It goes without saying that tyre life is governed by many factors...... road characteristics (surface, temperature, ratio of twists and straights etc), total loaded weight, riding style and many more aspects. However, life comparisons between tyres in my case are valid because I travel the same type of roads, most of my riding is tied up with advanced roadcraft coaching and I don't commute.
I would
have happily replaced them with another set but the relatively newly-released
Metzler Roadtec 01’s had been launched to critical acclaim by motorcycling journalists.
Like the PR4, wet weather performance was reputed to be outstanding. No harm in giving them a try so I purchased a set, also 55 profile.
New Metzler Roadtec 01 tyres
In the wet, I haven't noticed any difference in grip between the PR4 and the Roadtec 01, they are both terrific in both wet conditions and dry public roads. Under rigorous measurement with a better rider than me, there may well be a difference between the two brands but for my standard of riding and end use, they are both totally fit for purpose in terms of grip and feel.
So what about life? I've just racked up 11000 km and the centre of the rear tyre is close to the legal minimum of 1.5 mm. The front has a lot more depth but they will both be replaced within the next 1000 km. That means that life is near as dammit the same as the PR4's. I ran the same cold pressures at 39-40 psi rear and 36 psi front for both brands.
The rear hoop has retained its shape pretty well as the photos below show. Not having a significant central flat spot must be in part due to riding on mainly twisty roads with no commuting.
Rear Metzler Roadtec 01 @11000 km
Rear Metzler Roadtec 01 @ 11000 km (45 degree angle view)
The profile of the front tyre is interesting as it has lost its shape, particularly in the last couple of thousand km, with significant "flats" towards the edges. Part of this is undoubtedly due to the twisty roads in our region which I mentioned earlier and the amount of countersteering employed when riding at a reasonable pace. I wouldn't have a clue whether carcass construction to give a bigger footprint when leaned over has any bearing on the wear pattern (see below). Also, the leading edge of each rain groove is higher than the rear edge but doesn't seem to affect the handling. It doesn't show in the photos. It just looks odd. Not really classic cupping.
Wear profile of front Metzler Roadtec 01 @ 11000km
Front Metzler Roadtec 01 @11000 km
Arrow shows the area of flattening around the circumference
In summary, I'd be perfectly happy to fit either the PR4 or Roadtec 01 but will be going with the 01's again to build up a bit more comparative experience with them. Both fantastic tyres for the all-weather riding I do and both exceed the 10,000 km minimum life that I mentally set for my particular use,
Tyre prices in NZ tend to be higher than in bigger countries because of the shipping costs, economies of scale and relative lack of competition. Current prices vary a bit between dealers but the fitted price for a pair of standard load rating Metzler Roadtec 01's (120x70 -17 front and 190x55-17 rear is around NZD640/USD460/AUD603. Michelin PR4's for the same size are around NZD605/USD425/AUD570 . Does the price difference matter to me? Not really that important, tyres are such an important safety factor that skimping simply isn't worth it.
May 2018: I have just worn out my second set of 01's and the results are identical to this report. They are a fantastic tyre which totally meets my particular needs. Update: A 2021 end of life review of the Michelin Road 5 tyre can be found HERE
I hate it when fronts do that, but man when the new rubber goes on you can feel the difference!
ReplyDeleteMy PR4's performed perfectly on mildly moist back roads today - love 'em to bits and I get nearly 12k out of them too.
Signed
A Michelin fan.
Absolutely! When I went from the old PR4's to the spanking new 01's, it felt so unstable for a few tens of km!
ReplyDeleteI'd happily go back to PR4's but having had several sets on my bikes, the Metzlers deserve another chance!
I am glad you found a couple of different sets that work well with your riding style and the Suzuki.
ReplyDeleteHi Brandy,
ReplyDeleteYep, having trust in your tyres is essential for a relaxed ride, especially when "pressing on a bit" :-)
Interesting Geoff. The PR3 on the front of my XJR13 looks just like the photo of your Metz, with distinct "flat spots" on the sides. The rear developed the standard WA centre flat.......
ReplyDeleteA pair of PR4s are around $610 fitted over here...much the same as there, but, what price good rubber.
The last Metzlers I had were Z6's I think - good tyres, but I got a large nail through the rear so don't know how long they would have lasted. The PR3s did 12,000 kms without bother though.
Ned,from Auckland Motorcycles in Ponsonby road, many years ago now, told me - "We only sell 2 types of tyres - TT100s, and things to keep the rims off the road" .........
Hi Jon!
DeleteMy PR3’s did that too. I think the narrow spacing of the sipes made the tread move a bit. I think the Coromandel coast road is a major contributor to the wear on the front 01. I couldn't possibly comment about the rate of progress along it........
TT100’s . Now there's a blast from the past. Had them on my old Tiger 100!
Hi Geoff
ReplyDeleteAn interesting piece as always. I've just ordered a set of Bridgestone 023s to replace the OEM Dunlop Qualifier tyres on the Guzzi which are nearly done. This at just over 7100Kms. There's an interesting point here as I bought what are the previous generation Bridgestone Sports Touring tyre (Which I've used on other bikes in the past and been impressed with) for some $411. This opposed to the $600 for Michelin PR4s. Whilst the 023s aren't the latest whizz bang tyres they are far more than being 2/3 the tyre the Michelins are. I'll keep you posted on how they get on but they could be an option for you in the future.
On a side note I attended the Ron Hallam Race school on a number of occasions in 2014 and 2015 before leaving the UK. All their bikes (CBR600RRs as well as Fireblades) were equipped with the Bridgestone Sports Touring tyre, either 023s or T30s, and this was due to the tyres cracking grip levels and longer life than the pure sports variants. This in their words, not ours. That was the seal of approval for me as seeing what they could cope with was a real confidence booster.
Thanks Lee! You've done well with the Qualifiers, had to change mine on the Street Triple at 6000 km. Nothing wrong with BT023 performance. They're the tyre of choice of our latest IAM Observer and he doesn't hang about on his TDM 900!
ReplyDeleteHated the 023's on the ST1300. In G James parlance, when I was "pressing on a bit" and the casings got hot, they started to flex and it felt like riding on a half inflated tyre. I've liked the Z6's, Z8's and T30's (which I'm currently running) though.
DeleteHi John,
DeleteTyres have got so good that it probably comes down to personal choice. However, bike weight, geometry, power delivery and so on also has an impact. Hence, the advent of stronger carcass options for tyres such as the PR4, Roadtec 01’s and a few others. Gets bewildering, doesn't it?
Great analytical write up as always Geoff. I feel for you on the tyre prices in NZ. Recently had a rear 190 x 50 PR4 fitted for $275 - that's with me removing and re-installing the rear wheel from the bike. I'm afraid I'm a "rusted on" PR4 fan though.
ReplyDeleteHi Jules and thanks! I could probably import the tyres from the US to save a bit but it's not worth the hassle of organising them to be fitted when they arrive. I'll just suck it up! Great price you paid. I'd quite happily stick with PR4's but I'm curious (anal?) to see if I get the same results from another set of 01's.
DeleteWish I could get that sort of mileage. The tyre those replaced the Roadtec Interact Z8 was almost gone by 6000km on my bike so I am guessing the 01 will last about the same as the Angel GT which was bald at 7000km. Too heavy a bike but I am stuck with what I have for now.
ReplyDeleteHi Warren,
ReplyDeleteBike weight is certainly a factor but steering geometry, suspension, road type and temperatures etc also contribute. I have a friend with a Blackbird who doesn't hang about and he gets 15,000 km from a rear PR4 - don't know how he does it. I think the front hoop going out of shape on my bike is partially due to the firm front end. I'll re-check the sag and maybe ease the compression damping in the near future.
Well my PR4 GTs at my blackbird has now 15700km need to replace soon tough still maybe .2mm to marker tough...
ReplyDeleteNo track on these and tried to do my travelling ontwisty roads.
You've done really well! The Blackbird is notoriously hard on tyres, particularly the front. The PR4's are great tyres and there isn't much to choose between them and the Roadtec 01's. I've been very happy with both of them.
ReplyDeleteThanks for dropping by!
I nice your blogs
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Thank you for the kind words and best wishes!
DeleteThank you jamess this report helps alot
ReplyDeleteThank you hyder, glad that it's of interest to you!
DeleteI have ran 5 pairs of Road Rec 01's on Triumphs, 3 pairs on a 2010 Sprint 1050 ST, 1 pair on a 2012 Street Triple, 1 pair on a 2016 Tiger Sport 1050.
ReplyDeleteThe Sprint and Tiger Sport flatted off the rears at 4,500 miles, the lighter Street Triple flatted the rear off at 5,500 miles, just as photo's above. Great grip wet or dry, increase in comfort v 023's and faster steering than PR4's. Wear about the same on all makes, - they all last me for 5,000 miles max. No idea how some riders get any higher mileage from modern S/T tyres.
I am going to try a 2nd rear Road Tec 01 with the original front on the Tiger Sport
Hi Dave and thanks for dropping by! The 01's are a really good tyre. I think that the Road 5's are a little quicker steering but I was put off by the string of punctures I had with them, even if it might have been sheer bad luck. I'm now trying Bridgestone T31's on my Duke 790 as they get excellent reviews. In terms of handling, they feel more like the 01's than the Road 5's.
DeleteHi Geoff
ReplyDeleteI do very high weekly milage 900ks a week. I thought I would try these road tec 01 tyres as I had read good reports about them. Done 5500 kms they are just about done. Really disappointed I dont even ride a high cc sports bike any more,just a single cylinder BMW650 gs.any thoughts on what tyres I should get as this will bankrupt me if I have to purchase a rear tyre every 2 months.
Hi and thanks for dropping by! That is indeed a horrendously short life. I would need to ask you about the environment you ride in..... road surface, temperatures, plus do you mainly commute and so on to be able to answer sensibly but it does sound like a more touring-oriented tyre as opposed to a sport tourer might be part of the answer, perhaps something like a Bridgestone BT 045 or Dunlop Roadsmart might help. If you want to discuss it a bit further, happy for you to email me.
DeleteHi everybody,
ReplyDeleteI have Dunlop Roadsmart III on my Yamaha TDM 900 and it served me around 32000 km.
I was about switching to Roadtech 01 but now I'm rethinking that option.
That's an amazing life from a tyre on a fairly heavy bike! Your choice will depend on whether you want a long life or better grip. As long as tyres last for about 10,000 km, grip is the most important to me. The Roadtec 01 is a great tyre but for my conditions, the Michelin Road5 is even better: https://geoffjames.blogspot.com/2021/09/michelin-road-5-end-of-life-review.html?
DeleteGood luck with your choice!